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Old Nov 01, 2008, 12:27 AM // 00:27   #1
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Ok well, I got bored from farming thousands of party points(im sure alot of you are) so i made this build and tried it out in ab/ra/ta. It does a hefty bit of dmg, but its just a spike that can be shut down as easily as alot of other spikes. Still, i thought it was interesting. I dont know if this build is new/old and i apologize if it is.

Black Spider Strike, Twisting Fangs, Golden Phoenix Strike, Blades of Steel, Way of the Empty Palm [Elite], Conjure Flame, Mark of Rodgort, Dash.

I thought it was fun to kill Warriors with 600+hp and 120ish armor...
How to run: Well its pretty much self explanatory...
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 12:32 AM // 00:32   #2
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I liked everything apart from mark of rodgort...ever thought of taking Shock? Really usefull against meteor shower eles in AB.
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 12:37 AM // 00:37   #3
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I'd rather put in some disruption than use MoR as the hex. You can say it's comparable to the WotEP bar I used to use, minus the disruption. When you hit with BSS and TF, you'll have 7 and deep wound already, which makes MoR redundant compared to say Mark of Instability.
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45   #4
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MoR is for Black Spider, if you remove it you need a replacement.
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45   #5
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Not too bad of a bar to run for fun..theres much more effective options though.
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 01:01 AM // 01:01   #6
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[build prof=a/e dagger=10+1+1 crit=12+1 air=8][Way of the Assassin][Golden Phoenix Strike][Horns of the Ox][Falling Lotus Strike][Twisting Fangs][Storm Djinn's Haste][Conjure Lightning][res sig][/build]
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 01:38 AM // 01:38   #7
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I'd rather put in some disruption than use MoR as the hex. You can say it's comparable to the WotEP bar I used to use, minus the disruption. When you hit with BSS and TF, you'll have 7 and deep wound already, which makes MoR redundant compared to say Mark of Instability.

Point....but the extra 7 pips from burning rends heals like healing breeze able to only drop degen to 5 pips of degen.

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Old Nov 01, 2008, 02:06 AM // 02:06   #8
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Point....but the extra 7 pips from burning rends heals like healing breeze able to only drop degen to 5 pips of degen.

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But who uses breeze?
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 02:07 AM // 02:07   #9
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mark of rodgort builds aren't good, discuss
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 02:52 AM // 02:52   #10
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I liked everything apart from mark of rodgort...ever thought of taking Shock? Really usefull against meteor shower eles in AB.
This takes less than 8 seconds to kill an ele just so you know...MS is of no use.

Also, the build maxes out degen, and even with breeze up it would have little or no effect with the extra degen to kick in...
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 04:40 AM // 04:40   #11
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but its just a spike that can be shut down more easily as alot of other spikes
Fixed.

Besides standard melee counters your spike is both Hex- and Ench-reliant, and seeing as partial shutdown might as well be total shutdown for spike builds... It won't come up much in AB/RA, but you've found real scrubs in TA if they haven't figured out your weaknesses and render you useless after one execution.

Please tell me Healing Breeze is NOT your motivation for basing this off MoR. Take Conjure Shattersin or something, which is far less clunky.

Apart from that loads of power, sadly no disruption, should be fun watching people burn though
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 05:24 AM // 05:24   #12
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Fixed.

Besides standard melee counters your spike is both Hex- and Ench-reliant, and seeing as partial shutdown might as well be total shutdown for spike builds... It won't come up much in AB/RA, but you've found real scrubs in TA if they haven't figured out your weaknesses and render you useless after one execution.

Please tell me Healing Breeze is NOT your motivation for basing this off MoR. Take Conjure Shattersin or something, which is far less clunky.

Apart from that loads of power, sadly no disruption, should be fun watching people burn though
Like i said i was bored lol. No healing breeze wasnt my motivation, i simply like to watch ppl die from degen lol.
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 06:44 AM // 06:44   #13
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well if someone is using healing breeze to stop a spike
and it actualy works

then...

yea...

theres sumptin wrong here o__o
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 10:46 AM // 10:46   #14
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i simply like to watch ppl die from degen lol.
You should try N/Me then
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 11:19 AM // 11:19   #15
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This takes less than 8 seconds to kill an ele just so you know...MS is of no use.

Also, the build maxes out degen, and even with breeze up it would have little or no effect with the extra degen to kick in...
I didnt ask you to use MS, LOL, Ive simply said that mark of rodgort aint much of a good hex to start up a spike and you lacked kd so shock is sexy!!

Honestly, dont you think that having say, grasping earth as a hex to start your combo is better? I mean, it can act like a snare, starting hex and can be used defensively, imo, really good spell, yay/nay?

Also, who the hell uses healing breeze? o____o
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 12:24 PM // 12:24   #16
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You should try N/Me then
As much fun as those are to play, i killed plenty of em in AB. Dmg is too much for them. and regen...well they dont get regen against this lol
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 01:25 PM // 13:25   #17
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Vampiric Spirit necs > u tbh :P
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 01:26 PM // 13:26   #18
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So what happens when you fight a Ranger?

1. 100AL vs. your daggers b/c of conjure (50% base damage)
2. trolls your burning and blockstances your daggers
3. ????
4. Profit!
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 01:39 PM // 13:39   #19
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So what happens when you fight a Ranger?

1. 100AL vs. your daggers b/c of conjure (50% base damage)
2. trolls your burning and blockstances your daggers
3. ????
4. Profit!
That statement is very true, gj.
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 02:12 PM // 14:12   #20
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MoR is for Black Spider, if you remove it you need a replacement.
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I'd rather put in some disruption than use MoR as the hex. You can say it's comparable to the WotEP bar I used to use, minus the disruption. When you hit with BSS and TF, you'll have 7 and deep wound already, which makes MoR redundant compared to say Mark of Instability.
You can say I didn't directly give it out, but I cheated.

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Like i said i was bored lol. No healing breeze wasnt my motivation, i simply like to watch ppl die from degen lol.
Burning Arrow / Incendiary Arrows
Apply Poison
Pin Down
Distracting Shot
Savage Shot
Natural Stride
Troll Unguent
Mending Touch

There's your degen.
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